Nosedive "mitigation" product - beta testers wanted!



  • Happy to test those wheels. Looks nice and tight. Had my first nosedive on Friday. I ran it out, but it was a HUGE surprise.



  • I like it. FM should adopt your project, and add in some sensing smarts so that these can engage elevated or descent mode. Grind up against a hill, change modes.



  • @willcapellaro
    I think adding the complexity of extension / retraction just introduces one more thing that can go wrong or break. These are quite solid as is and really out of the way – let's see how they perform.



  • @ventoriffic
    It happened so fast for me that I'm not sure if it was the drop or the board stopping so fast that threw me off. Perhaps a combination. These wheels may give you just a bit more time to realize what's happened and get your balance. They also give the front of the board about 1" of height off the ground, so you don't fall quite as far vertically. Who knows if it will help? Only the testers...as I don't have as many miles as a lot of others here.



  • @hoovdini Was also thinking the extra clearance keeps the board from dropping you a full 45, meaning less inertia toward the ground. Will be following! Gotta make them for XR now.



  • @ventoriffic
    I’ll have to see what others say but it looks like the same bumper to me...in which case it would fit already!



  • Great ! Those wheels could have saved me twice in Paris and DC.

    One way to test:
    Go to the gym and ask permission to use an high speed treadmill.
    Secure the area around in case the board is ejected.
    Secure yourself (full protections, grab the bars, safety harness to the ceiling ??)
    Sign a disclaimer.
    And accelerate until nosedive.

    If someone is both a stuntman and a geek it could be interesting to open the board and clamp an ammeter on the motor cable to log the nosedive Amps.
    Still unclear to me if FM has all the info and did not manage to make it work.



  • Very GOOD job! BRAVO!



  • @secretsquirrel
    They are just for the nose! You could install them in the back too but I don't see the need.



  • @hoovdini these look like a much better solution than previous versions I have seen and would be interested in trying them out. I am #3 on the OW+ mileage leader board and would happy to use Murph the only OW riding dog to help promote your product. (Assuming it is good) Want to make sure to keep Murph safe and happy when riding. I can assure he hates nosedives too.



  • @hoovdini If anything I feel I wouldn't want them on the back. I can ride out a heel drag slow down WAAAY before a nosedive to the pavement. I've stopped pretty hard on the + without problems. Has anyone overloaded torque while slowing down and caused a tail dive? I can only imagine it's possible.



  • @ventoriffic
    Yes I have riding at the Skateboard park in elevated mode. It really helps to ride up the steep ramps, but doesn't like to ride fast down hill. I had the reverse nose dive, AKA the tail dive at high speeds. At least you can scrub speed on the tail, which I did for e few feet before I ran it out. Was still very scary and unexpected. Never had it happen in Mission or Delerium though.



  • @arnlej
    Awesome Idea about the treadmill !!!!!



  • @steeve
    Yeah a treadmill could work, but it's perhaps not really reflective of real world conditions that could stop these small wheels. Once the road gets too rough, all bets are off.



  • Was just thinking the back for when riding switch. Don’t do it often myself though as that’s not my cup of tea.



  • @hoovdini Sonny on the OW Owners facebook group tested his by using a stick with a nail in it to push the power button while riding. It's a bit to juggle while riding, but you will never be completely prepared for a nosedive.

    Here is the one I made. It's a whole bumper to accommodate a 50mm wheel, which is a lot more trouble to print. It's actually made to go on the back to make transporting easier. I never had a nosedive while they were on the front. It was more about providing a little peace of mind while recovering confidence after a fall.

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  • @gibby said in Nosedive "mitigation" product - beta testers wanted!:

    tail dive at high speeds. At least you can scrub speed on the tail, which I did for e few feet before I ran it out. Was still very scary and unexpected. Never had it happen in Mission or Delerium though.

    I drag the tail when slowing down all the time. There is no way the board can slow down as fast as I need it to frequently. It super easy to ride out and recover. In traffic this happens to me a lot. Im at 225lbs though so this just may be easier for me to do



  • Please send. You can email me for the address. fmjohns@gmail

    I've had about 8 pretty bad nosedives, and a handful more i've been able to ride out. Ex snowboard instructor who will film the testing process.



  • @ianjohnson said in Nosedive "mitigation" product - beta testers wanted!:

    @hoovdini Sonny on the OW Owners facebook group tested his by using a stick with a nail in it to push the power button while riding. It's a bit to juggle while riding, but you will never be completely prepared for a nosedive.

    Here is the one I made. It's a whole bumper to accommodate a 50mm wheel, which is a lot more trouble to print. It's actually made to go on the back to make transporting easier. I never had a nosedive while they were on the front. It was more about providing a little peace of mind while recovering confidence after a fall.

    0_1515613911461_wheels.jpg

    DROOOLLLLL over those concave, and beveled foot pads. =)



  • @hoovdini Your experience is almost identical to mine. 2 different occassions separated by a few months, but both equally painful. The nosedive has made me gun shy to ride that path anymore. I'd love to try these out. Let me know how you'd like me to send my address and I'll send it over. Lee


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