Thrown off after nosedive with no pushback warning (nose dive, nose-dive)

  • Don't ride at high speed.. Pretty simple..☺

  • ARGH.

    You guys jinksts me!

    This time I felt the board stop and throw me off, not nose down from pushing to far forward. Actually felt the brakes being slammed on and me thrown...

  • @Tonio said:

    what do you guys mean by 1.0 or 2.0 exactly? My firmware is 3000 and I do have pushback.

    It's the very first and old firmware. It was called 1000 and then upgraded to 2000, but we just called them 1.0 and 2.0.
    So I guess it's 3.x now.
    I'm still riding extreme in firmware 2000, since I only borrowed an Iphone twice (once to get it to extreme, and once to upgrade to 2000).
    Pushback was added in 2000, and never removed, because it's way superior to the alternative.

    @elsup said:

    The engine should never cut at high speed when there is pressure on either side of the pad. I can't think of a downside.

    You are right. But this really is the way the board is supposed to work. It has been tested by a few daring ones that you can ride with only one sensor engaged with no problem, as long as you don't go too slow.

  • On really hard heel turns my front half of my feet is completely off and the board has never shut off yet. .. fast or slow. So I wonder if it is a bug in some boards.

  • I have a brand-new board with firmware 3056. In Classic mode the pushback was too much, like the tail was almost dragging on the ground. I changed it to Extreme on day 2 and it's way nicer to ride, but I don't think I can feel any pushback. It vibrates when it's approaching top speed, but it gets pretty sketchy, so I can only carefully dip into the power then have to back off. I've gone off the front a few times, but I kind of like the fact that the board takes some skill to ride. I'm hoping I can get the feel for pushing it along at full speed.

  • @jp in 3056, extreme - doesn't the board still gradually lean its tail down as you pick up speed? That's what mine is doing.... very annoying as I hate riding with the tail oriented down.

    I rode it "backwards" with the sensor foot on the back and it doesn't "sag" as much

  • @rainynite over .5 mph you only have to be on 1 sensor.. It will only shut off under .5mph on 1 sensor

  • @tomtnt, I don't feel any push back at all. I've tried riding it backwards a bit, but should do it more to see if there's a difference. Definitely no "sag".

  • @njcustom is this 100% true? I've never seen that anywhere before

  • @kelp 10000% true lol.. It's easy to test for yourself..

  • First ride last night in my parking garage. Seemed to feel some push back so I gave extra lean and the nose went straight to the ground. Luckily it's a very smooth surface so the front slid vs stopped and I stayed on. Learning to respect the board early.

  • @bigskyinminnie first off, gratz on your new favorite thing! Are you still in basic mode? (default on new board). I would be careful pushing through the push back in this mode. You hit the wall pretty quick and will get the nose up push back. Most find it easier to go straight to extreme mode.. which will give you some more speed and acceleration.

    Definitely be careful muscling through the pushback though.. and wear helmet and wrist guards, especially when riding on concrete or other hard surfaces.

    I took my board to a well maintained sports field the first few days. Very short grass makes for pretty smooth riding.. and hurts a hell of a lot less when face planting.. which i did often (usually due to over confidence and trying to exceed my current skill level). Rolling out of a nasty fall is painful on concrete!

  • @callenj357 thanks! I was pretty excited to get the shipping notice about a month earlier than expected. I stared out in extreme mode after reading numerous forum notes on classic being fairly limited. My frontside turns are pretty weak as I'm nervous abouut front foot lift. I dropped the tire pressure a bit and that seemed to help.
    I'm guessing, after some more riding I'll have a better sense of where the limits are and yeah, I should wear some gear. Rolling out of a fall at 39yrs old isn't quite like it was at 16!

  • @njcustom just got mine today. ive read a lot about the phantom nosedives and thought they concluded it was due to both sensors not being 'depressed' or 'sensed' as it were haha. I was genuinely seeking info :D

  • @tomtnt thanks :D

  • @kelp I didn't know til future motion told me in an email.. Then tried it and sure enough worked..

  • I keep reading aobut push backs griding sounds and people injured after nose-dives. First thing I can think of is 0,5$ buzzer controlled by software! It should be configurable (could be switched off from app) and just warn rider when approaching board limit. I guess all of the buyers will accept board which is 1500,5$ instead of 1500.

    Another idea - just two small wheels from skates in front bumper and 70% of injured people would be safe on concrete and asphalt in nose dive situation. Also great for transportation - you can drag OW instead of carrying it.

    I sometimes think they're too busy counting $$$....

  • In this long thread, couldn't find a response from OneWheel, is there one? This also happened to me once. And, I have found the speed at which 'push back' occurs is very inconsistent. This has been worrisome. I grew up skateboarding and it's normal to increase your speed as you get more comfortable with your board and the road you are on. So OneWheel needs to fix this problem. And, the inconsistent pushback can be crazy making and make you lose confidence in the board. I swear the board now pushback at a slower speed than it did a few days ago. OneWheel?

  • @Kwok Before they get sued...they need to address this. If you are at the top limit of the boards allowed speed...why would you have a system that suddenly turns off the board balancing? That makes no sense. And, the speed at which push back occurs is definitely inconsistent in my experience.

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