New App vs Old App, digital Shaping difference?



  • @braswell No noticeable changes, but I haven't observed any of the reported issues. I only commented on how they could exist with the multiple versions and firmware revs in the field.

    Update indicates it was "bug fixes."



  • I just rode the V1 on the new app. The new ride update is REALLY DIFFERENT and NOT BETTER. The V1 feels a lot weaker, slower and more tippy. To the point of not being nearly as enjoyable.

    Onewheel - I really hope you go back to what you had before or do something better. Love you, but this kind of sucks, sorry.



  • I've noticed a few bugs. My watch doesn't always connect with the board as it used to. My board's lifetime odometer reading is different depending on whether I'm on "My Board" or "Board Settings" screens. I can't record a trip in "Rides". But the most annoying thing: What are these seemingly random numbers that appear on the "Leaderboard" screen at the bottom in blue beneath where it says "Reset Top Speed"??? They have no relevance to my stats!



  • @Gosha
    maybe they did this to create a bigger difference between the 2 boards .leaving us wanting the plus even more ;)



  • Was thinking EXACTLY the same thing. The new mode is really disspointing, OW. PLEASE change it back!



  • @Rado Where did you find out? Is there a link to the old version? I'm on iOS and hoping there is an old version somewhere



  • @Gosha Google "how to download old app version iOS". Or you can find someone with an android phone, have them download the official OW app, sync your board to it and cycle through the shaping modes and then put it on Extreme and leave it. The Android version hasn't been updated yet. Maybe un-sync your board from the new iOS app first and delete it. I was able to revert back to the old iOS app (1.2.7) before the digital shaping 2.0 and once I felt my board was back to normal I just continue using the OWheelBuddy app instead of the OW app.



  • @Gosha
    i hope not and like to think it is a development stage...I think it also happened with the V1...differences in apps....they should know what the differences will be or are aimed at...so maybe they should list some characteristics in a discription and a feedback score?..



  • I think you guys are crazy. I've had my board for three years, and I know it like the back of my hand. I have the new app, and it didn't change a thing. I'm sorry, but I really feel like it's in your heads. The board has firmware that isn't changed by simply selecting the riding mode in the app. I've done firmware updates on my board two years ago when FM actually sent out a riding curve update. This was a process in which you downloaded the update, and it sent it to the board via Bluetooth while the board was on. It instructed you to not ride or touch the board until the update was done. That my friends is what a riding curve update looks like. An app update alone doesn't change anything on the board.



  • @J-Glide it's not unusual for folks to have different results. things happen all the time, especially with regard to technically complex items, and success with your board doesn't necessarily imply success with others'.

    for example - you've personally done firmware updates. i think we can reasonably surmise not every board has the same firmware version. we also know the OW+ units use additional enumerations (mode numbers) for ride modes. How does the OW app decide which ride mode to send to a board? One reasonable presumption is that it uses the firmware version. So, its quite reasonable to see how a potential problem could exist wherein the app mis-identifies some boards and sends the wrong mode number (ie, sends a plus mode to a v1). In that scenario, yours could work great, while others fail.

    My point is that this is one respect in which forums like this are a great help to the community. Hopefully the latest bug fixes in the app resolved the issue. But issues where a user is able to test against multiple apps and demonstrate a problem should be encouraged, as it helps improve the board/app quality for the whole community.



  • @J-Glide said in New App vs Old App, digital Shaping difference?:

    I think you guys are crazy.

    You could be right. @SeeTheInvisible (coded the app) said there's no way the app can change the settings of a mode, it simply switches between the existing modes that are built into the firmware.

    However... there is that one hidden testing mode that you can only get to by using the power button trick. Maybe the new app accidentally accesses that mode?



  • @thegreck What is this secret power button mode trick you speak of?



  • @thegreck said in New App vs Old App, digital Shaping difference?:

    @J-Glide said in New App vs Old App, digital Shaping difference?:

    I think you guys are crazy.

    You could be right. @SeeTheInvisible (coded the app) said there's no way the app can change the settings of a mode, it simply switches between the existing modes that are built into the firmware.

    However... there is that one hidden testing mode that you can only get to by using the power button trick. Maybe the new app accidentally accesses that mode?

    I couldn't agree with you more. I don't want to offend anyone, but it's seems like a few of these newbies think they know more than us original ow riders. Oh well.... I tried to talk them out of their craziness. @thegreck the fact that we know the secret mode acquired with the power button shows our deeper knowledge of the product. Keep up the sick moves!



  • @Rado said in New App vs Old App, digital Shaping difference?:

    @thegreck What is this secret power button mode trick you speak of?

    Here's the seeeecret (not my video BTW): https://youtu.be/0FBAGx-ltNg



  • @thegreck Do you know the # of blinks for each shaping mode on the OW+ by chance?



  • @bizrock I don't, but maybe @w1ngy has figured that one out too?



  • @iiikz I owe you an apology. I wasn't trying to be rude. I hope you understand.



  • @J-Glide no worries. glad to hear that you're enjoying the plus!

    you're not wrong in general. i may not be a kid, but i AM a newbie - and subjectivity and/or coincidence often does lead to speculation and assumptions that aren't true. I was just trying to sift through feedback that had a rational (and technical) explanation. for many years I worked as a software engineer and have integrated with many devices; in this case I could see how an issue could exist.



  • @thegreck Thanks, man, most appreciated. @w1ngy this would be great if you know and can share...

    As excited as I am to finally have the OW+ on hand, it's pretty frustrating not having an official way to adjust the shaping. I've tried all the apps (onewheel, owheelbuddy, powheel) and while they can connect to the plus, there's no way to know/change the shaping.

    C'mon ANDROID UPDATE...!



  • @bizrock the analogous link that others have shared for the OW+: https://youtu.be/Ihx59I62j9w

    The OW+ uses different ride modes, so there's not (yet) as much consensus regarding how the new modes fare against the old.


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