Do not ride at high speed!
AceCannon last edited by
@cascadewheeler - Nice riding.
It has become clear to me after reading threads like this that people who weigh maybe 150lbs and higher should not flirt with 20mph.
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OW is not dangerous the way other board sports are. E.g. a snowboard will punish you when you push your own ability too far but for most people the board is far more capable than the rider: it's your fault if you fall. OW, however, is far less capable than the rider. If there was a skateboard with wheels that suddenly lock up if you put too much weight on them, or a snowboard with an edge that somehow retracts when you carve too hard, we'd have a fair comparison. A "safe" board is one that lets you push your limits without worrying about the limits of the board.
I just got back from a sweet trail ride where I took some falls that were definitely my fault, just couldn't stay balanced going over some roots. No complaints, my skills will improve, and didn't make me distrust the board. Took a couple nosedives though that were, as always, out of nowhere, when I wasn't pushing my limits. I do keep my feet centered for maneuverability, but I guess I need to bring the front foot back a bit.
Hopefully you heal up quickly. Looks like it might just be a little road rash, anything broken?
I have wrist guards and a helmet on at all times if going more than 5 mph (exception is from car to office at 6am). Have any gear on when you went down?
OGTALBOT last edited by OGTALBOT
@skyman88 nothing broken, although I very well could have. I'll know next time not to break any records. I had nothing protective on. T shirt, shorts shoes, and a bag of drinks in one hand. They comically went sailing.
Zilen last edited by
@Cameroni79 The same thing happened to me. No pushback. No warning. It just shut off. Wishing you the best!
Questions for you:
- How fast were you going?
- How many miles do you have on a OW?
- Was your board physically powered off after you fall, meaning the blue light was off?
@sonny123 there’s nothing home made about the body protection. That’s all football and motorcycle armor and padding. Widely available.
Here’s my Q. As a noob to this “sport”, this story is a bit unnerving for me...
Would fangs or some equivalent have prevented or have saved you at all? 😬
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@causticgrip As someone that's gone down at 3 mph and again at 21 mph, I can say that fangs "can" help. I have over 1600 miles on my + and XR combined. I have fangs on both. I will say that since my 21 mph, high speed, fall at around 600 miles on my +, I've kept my speed to a max of around 15 mph and am usually cruising at about 12 mph (I'm about 185 with 20 psi tire pressure and ride strictly in Delirium). I've never really been able to feel the push back, so I just don't trust the boards at much faster than that. I have been saved twice by the fangs: once while trying to accelerate too quickly trying to cross a street and once when going uphill at maybe 8-10 mph. Both times I know I would have gone off the front if not for the fangs, so I am a believer. Would they have helped in my 21 mph crash? I highly doubt it.
Anyway, just my 2 cents! As usual, YMMV. I can't see myself ever NOT riding a OW . . . it's just way too much fun! Minimally, I wear my MIPS helmet and wrist guards, but I add knee and elbow pads when pushing it or on more rugged terrain.
Slowly learning the boards capabilities is the best way to stay safe.
Folks disagree... but from the crew of like 20 people that rotate through our weekend rides, only two have had true board issues... the rest have been user. People don't like that answer but it's a balance board with a motor.... without knowing the limits, it's easy to exceed them. Board can only do so much.
So if you keep to under pushback while you learn, and then knowingly and purposely push through pushback, if you so choose, you'll have made a conscious decision to do so... Speed up inclines, over regen shut offs, over acceleration, etc... are all things you learn as you go unfortunately.
Fangs can help flat ground over accels and attempting to go up inclines at too great of a speed... The alternative is to slow and grow you skills and speed.
Thanks for the responses...I’m an avid motorcyclist and understand th concept of respecting the machine during the learning curve.
What I’m stunned about here though is no one from FM is coming in to this conv to lend input and investigate this issue. That’s highly concerning to me....
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@causticgrip Yep, I ride motorcycles and I snowboard, so it helps to understand the risk reward of such sports. As for @Future-Motion ever chiming in on these boards, don't hold your breath. I've mentioned their ID many times and don't think I've ever seen a response.
@OneDan that’s kind of concerning, considering this is their forum.
Shows a lack of interest in their own community and any care for their own consumers and enthusiasts...
That’s bad JuJu, imo.
Typically they only post for news and announcements. I'm guessing they don't staff to support the OW forum... Facebook groups are extremely active as is Reddit for OW stuff.
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@skyman88 Can you fill me in on regen shut-offs? First I've heard of that one.
Glyph last edited by Glyph
@scrapdo Battery regen-recharges when braking downhill (and it's ALWAYS braking somewhat, unless you are going full tilt straight downhill like a madman).
BUT, battery can't be charged past 100% - that'd wreck the battery. So, if battery is at 100% and you try to go downhill, board won't - it shuts off, to protect the battery. You need to go uphill a bit and drain the battery down a little first.
causticgrip last edited by causticgrip
@Glyph that’s a serious design flaw. And a dangerous one. If that is really present it needs to be eliminated. Regenerative breaking should not be shutting off the motor once 100% is achieved. It should have some algrythm to simply stop any additional charge to be applied until 2% is lost.
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@causticgrip You'd think. I'm not sure why that's not the way it works. The board's external charger is smart enough to "know" once the battery's full (the LED turns green) so it doesn't seem like that big of a technical challenge to me, but what do I know? I live somewhere pretty flat, so it's never an issue for me.
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@Glyph @causticgrip The onewheel doesn't have normal brakes, so it has to use regenerative braking. When it does that, it has to store the power somewhere. If it doesn't it could overheat. This means you either just have to not be at 100% when going down a hill, or your board overheats and shuts off anyway. Either way the board would shutoff eventually.
The difference between the charger and regenerative braking is the charger just stops producing power. Whereas the regenerative braking continues to generate power because the rider decides to keep going down a hill.
See other comments... it's also in the manual.
If you haven't read the following... it's worth your time: https://onewheel.wiki/Riding_technique