PROPOSED SHAPING - One-Direction Mode - Why? Efficiency, Safety!

  • @ryancwynar

    Honestly I think the way it is probably best until they screwed it up a little with the newer version.
    There was no need for wider sensor area and delay IMO.

  • Hmmm. I like having my foot on the pad however I want it, but I figure if I decide I only need to go in one direction, then a new way to stop could be built around just pushing down on the tail. Really simple.

  • Technically... if OW were unidirectional... it wouldn't need a sensor at all.

  • I have been practicing a quick dismount where I brake hard until the back bumper scrapes the ground during the last 2 or 3 mph. That slows me down even more. Before I'm fully stopped I take my front foot off completely and place it on the ground as I come to a stop, keeping my weight on the rear foot though. Half the time the board stops dead as soon as I hit 0 mph. Other half I don't get the front foot off in time for the 1/2 second delay and I get a brief wheel slip as the board tries to push back but then it stops as soon as wheel-slip is detected. It works as long as I have my rear foot near the back of the board because the weight on the wheel is very low and all my weight is crushing the bumper into the ground and so the brief wheel spin doesn't jerk the board. I think it's just a matter of practice with the the front foot timing to prevent that. When it works, it's a fast, clean dismount.

  • I like this idea a lot. You've got my vote.

  • @desperado I'm going to be attempting that today, for sure. But still, the unpredictable nature of it is spooky. Especially in downtown LA.

    I don't need it getting away from me at a crosswalk and hitting someone on a wheelchair or getting under someone's car.

    My thinking is that safety isn't something to be practiced, it has to be built in.

    After all, wouldn't this maneuver be a whole lot easier if the only instruction was "push down on the tail until it turns off" ? And it did it EVERY time?

  • @enigmizzle Thanks bud.

  • @desperado I was doing the same thing for a bit. Worked well in 80% of situations I encountered in my daily commute.

  • @ryancwynar Someone might want to suddenly change direction without the board shutting down, like if you start crossing a street and see a car coming too late or something, you would want an emergency reverse, not an emergency shutdown in that case. I do this for balance practice too, when I don't have a lot of space, just going back and forth as fast as I can within a 5 foot length, with the bumpers scraping the ground a bit.
    It should be an option applicable to any shaping, just a checkbox for "safe stop mode" or something. I'm sure they will start considering these options as soon as they get up to speed as a company.

  • @desperado yeah, I agree. I think it should be an optional setting.

    The only way to get a good quick emergency reverse option would be with a higher power motor. 2000W would make it so you could change directions pretty damn fast from pretty high speed.

    As I understand it, every 750W or so is equivalent to about 1 horsepower.

  • @ryancwynar The current motor already has enough torque to change directions much faster than it does, but changing directions on a self-balancing device always has to be on a curve, or it'll throw the rider off.

  • @thegreck Huh, that's interesting. Yeah, I could definitely see that. All my gut feel for the relationship between power and weight comes from playing with high powered electric bicycles, but that's a much heavier object with a bigger wheel that's harder to turn, so it takes more power to get that acceleration feeling.

  • +1 for releasing an SDK to allow community to develop custom modes

  • Not really a big One-Direction fan. I mean they're very talented. I just don't like their music...but I'd go all bonkers for a K-Pop mode.

  • I love the ideas put forth, ryancwynar. I imagine not releasing the SDK is probably a liability thing and the last thing OneWheel wants is for someone to release shaping that winds up hurting a rider or worse. Having said that, I agree that the dismount can be tough but for me the way the board's designed requires a specific type of sneaker:

    Still I'm bumping and keeping the thread alive because I think it would be awesome for one wheel to consider offering shaping like this.

    PS - You're right, I never go backward either.

  • I would be all over this mode. Me going backwards is a precursor to me falling. Yeah, yeah, I know, practice switch. That's tricky what with coming back to board sports after a 39 year hiatus. And I couldn't ride switch in 1978 either.

  • One day in the future it will be like this:
    “Onewheel, stop board. “

    Then the board will slow down to 0 MPH and the rear will tilt down.

    It’s safe and simple.

  • @sonny123 said in PROPOSED SHAPING - One-Direction Mode - Why? Efficiency, Safety!:

    The dismount feature on the original OW was perfect.

    What is the difference? I only have the plus.

  • Uh, I don't think you guys really understand the fundamental physics behind how the onewheel works...

    Imagine it like a unicycle (which is very similar to how the OW works). If you did not let the wheel roll backwards, you would not be able to balance at a stand still. What you are describing would mean every time you roll to a stop, the tail would eventually just drop to the ground.

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