Wider stance, less speed?

  • @vspot415, @lirou nailed it. I like speed so I try to keep my stance as narrow as possible. At a point if I go too narrow it takes a lot more force / effort on my part to keep the board level (which I find uncomfortable), so the sweet spot for me is just on the inside of that, where my body weight does most of the work. Weight is also a factor in all of this. At #209 I can hit 17-18 no problem and to go faster, I'd narrow my stance.

  • Interesting discussion.
    Didn't realize that.
    I tend to ride as wide as possible.
    Guess that's why I can't go past 16 mph.

  • @sonny123 I know your the go to for experimentation and modding, try out some different stances and see what you get. I haven't had a chance yet but I'm gonna report back after I get the data

  • @sonny123 try moving your rear foot closer to the wheel- you'll quickly notice the difference- board feels like it found another gear.

  • @groovyruvy

    You are correct.
    Just tried it on my 13" mod and picked up couple more miles.
    Gonna try it on the +

  • If we assume the same force is applied at different distances from the fulcrum point, then of course the shorter the distance the less torque is created, but having feet closer together reduces your ability for fine balance. That's what the wide stance gives you - greater range over the amount of force applied to each end, ability to quickly shift weight and as a result better balance control. When on a moving ship, bus or train or when someone tries to push us off balance the natural response is to widen our stance. I find fighting stance to be most comfortable with front foot heel being under front shoulder and back foot toe under the back shoulder. Spreading your hands is natural when going over obstacles on OW because we can extend them even further out to balance. Even the poles used by wire walkers have weights on their ends, so a wider stance seems better to me as long as it's comfortable.

  • @sfctac

    Wider = better for balance & control (for all reasons you mentioned)
    Narrower = better for speed because less work from motor is going into balance

  • @skyman88 It's less work for the motor assuming the same force is applied at different distances from the wheel. This is an incorrect assumption. With wider stance we get better balance and have better control over amount of pressure applied in any direction. I argue, that with a wider stance I need to apply less pressure to start moving. I can also get maximum acceleration from the motor with a wider stance because I can force the front pad all the way down, scraping the ground. Similarly I can slam the tail on the ground if emergency breaking is required. Both of these would be more difficult with a narrow stance.

    Wider stance is not only more stable but also gives us a lower center of gravity and encourages us to lower it further by bending our keens, these give us better chances for recovery in case of malfunction.

  • @sfctac

    To clarify when I said speed I meant top speed (ft/s or mile/hour).

    I agree that the wider stance helps with better control of acceleration (derivative of speed, rate of change of speed, ft/s^2) but is a detractor from top speed.

    I think we are actually in full agreement on this one. Wider gives you better control, no argument there.

  • @skyman88 you got it. Wider stance = more control, however it also = increased chances of nosedives. Narrower stance = more speed, however it also = less control. IMO the key for each rider is to find that sweet spot where the stance is such that you're feeling full control over the board, not always on the edge of a nosedive, yet still able to hit those higher speeds. For me that translates into a stance that delivers 17mph no problem, with my feet just wide enough to be able to really carve the heck out of the board, and I rarely nosedive as it's not a really wide stance. PS I weigh 209#

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