Hoosier Treaded Tire & Rubbing (w/ solution)
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Hi OWers,
I've been riding the Hoosier Treaded tire for the last few months and have had no problem with the tire rubbing on the frame. I have my tire at 45psi (yeah, I know that's high, but don't knock it until you try it).
After a lot of discussions with other riders using the Hoosier, we have figured out why some people are having problems with rubbing (especially at tire pressures >15psi).
There are actually two sizes of tire that are being recommended in the OW community:
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The one that rubs is 11.0" x 6.5" x 6.0"
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The one that doesn't rub is 11.0" x 5.5" x 6.0'
Again, I ride the 5.5"-wide treaded tire at 45psi and have no rubbing at all. I strongly recommend anyone buying the tire to buy the 5.5" wide tire.
Have fun!
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Thanks for the heads up.
What's it like compared to Vega?
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It's amazing - I'll never ride the Vega slick again.
The biggest difference is related to the shape of the wheel (Vega is more like a cylinder - flat contact patch, the Hoosier is more like a donut - round contact patch). The Hoosier allows you to carve much harder. The physics are cleaner (less friction and rubber-torsion on the contact patch).
I highly recommend the Hoosier to anyone who has >100 miles on their board.
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That's good to hear.
Really wanted to get feedback at high PSI.
I'm having lots of fun on a 13" tire mod with rounded profile.
A bit under powered but still a blast to ride.
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@sonny123 Regarding the 45 PSI - people don't believe me when I discuss it, but the people who've tried it understand. High pressure is a huge upgrade (with the Hoosier, at least). My range is ~30-40% further than comparable riders on 20psi Vega slicks. I have found only one compromise with the higher pressure - climbing straight up a steep hill. Because my tire doesn't compress under my weight, I'm actually riding up a hill on a taller tire - so my weight is on the end of a longer lever (requires more torque). So, I can't go up the steepest hills going straight up - I have to slalom up it a little (switch-back-style). But, that's only for the steepest hills.
In general, I think people on the Hoosier should ride with >30 PSI for a week. Your body will have to adjust a bit - isotonic leg and foot strength will increase quickly. You'll notice it's harder to stand still at a crosswalk at first, but in a week you'll be back to where you were with the 20 PSI tire.
TL;DR - pump up to 40 PSI and ride it for a week.
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Agreed. I prefer high PSI.
My Vega is like a brick.
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@gwinntanamo sorry, I meant isometric strength - the ability to hold your foot stable while flexing...
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@gwinntanamo which hardness do you like?
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Would the stock fender still work??
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@mcguiles yes, no issues there.
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@ashewheeler I use the 30A rubber, and it's super grippy. I can't imagine needing more grip than the 30A - and I run it at a very high PSI.
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@gwinntanamo are you happy with the wear pattern
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@gwinntanamo what about power sliding or breaking loose during a quick kick turn. It's become my favorite motion...de-wieghting the wheel during a slashed healside carve and feeling the earth shred under wheelspin. Would the treaded/rounded tire inhibit this? Or just change it a bit?
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What about pumping the original Vega tire up to 40 PSI? Would that increase the mileage, or ride quality?
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How's it compare on bumpy off-road terrain? I ride a lot of trails with gnarly tree roots etc, and really appreciate a 15 psi Vega tire for soaking up the bumps a bit.
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@wheelcity Increased range - yes. Can't speak to the ride quality, I've never tried it. I suspect it'd be tough to turn smoothly.
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@desperado It's a different ride, but still fun. My legs can absorb bumps way easier than I expected.
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@ashewheeler yup, no issues. I'll probably rotate the tire in another 100 miles or so just to make sure I'm wearing it evenly.
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@ashewheeler no idea. My guess is it is not as easy to slip as the slick. I mean, smaller contact patch = more load per sq inch = harder to slip.
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@gwinntanamo my biggest concern about such a high PSI is not how well the board performs but rather how much it will beat up my knees. I presume that with a rounded tire profile the smaller contact area requires higher PSI to match the 'squishiness' (for lack of a better word) of the Vega, but I wouldn't have expected as much as 45 PSI.
