Suddenly very loose riding...?



  • FWIW, there is NO software change that can cause this - the 'looseness' of different modes is very much just the curve of the reaction to inputs.



  • Delirium should be tighter than Mission.

    It could be you advanced in your riding skills,
    or something wrong with the board.
    Unlikely as it's the first time we hear of such issue.

    If it's the board, contact support.
    Most likely they'll ask you for video of what it's doing.



  • I mentioned something similar happening with my board as in its more like a board with looser trucks and to be honest...I love I have been riding super aggresive in Chicago around all types of obstacles and it feels like I am on a shorter snowboard or a mcfly hoverboard (also I bend my knees and really try to get the "Kyle Slater" body angle in)



  • Thank you owmiami. I will check the bolts and tighten if necessary. I just come back from a ride and tried different riding modes and presssures. The wobbly did not change a lot between these. I also want to ride aggressive and did this really quickly after I learnt the basics, but now it is way too nervous, especially on hihger speeds, to ride aggressive around obstacles.
    Btw: who is Kyle Slater? Did you mean Kelly Slater?



  • Hi everybody,
    I just come back from checking the 4 sidebolts. They are as tight as you can tighten them. Impossible for me to loosen them. And what do you mean with the hidden bolts, I do not know which one you are refering to?



  • @owpete This is an interesting issue...

    Honestly, my first thought was "it's in his head". I remember when I first started riding - I felt super confident after a few weeks and could carve pretty hard.

    Then I changed my tire to the Hoosier treaded tire, and have been riding that for 6 months - charging way harder than I ever did on the stock tire.

    Every once in awhile I'll swap boards with a buddy with the vega stock tire, and holy crap - it's almost impossible for me to ride it now. It's not that I don't like riding it - I literally have a hard time keeping it stable at speed. So, I used to ride it confidently, and now I can't - it's all in my head (and body, I guess).

    But, if it's for sure something external, the only other thing I can think of is maybe the tire has broken in more and it's more rounded now - that will make it feel less stable. Or, maybe the temperature outside has changed the way the tire handles - or reduced the pressure by a few PSI due to colder temps.

    Try measuring your pressure immediately after you've been riding it for a bit (like, less than 1 minute after you hop off). See if the pressure is what you expected it to be.

    One last thing - are you SURE the riding modes are changing when you switch them on your app? Like, do you feel a difference when switching them? I've had situations where the board doesn't actually switch, even if the app says it did. I just had to restart the board and the problem fixed itself. But, just in case...

    Good luck!



  • Is the looseness in the side-to-side direction or in the forward-backward direction? Forward-backward could be a software issue, but side-to-side (steering) is not controlled by software at all. I would set the board on blocks (or with one side up on a curb or stair) so the wheel is not touching anything, and see if the wheel is loose by trying to twist it in different directions with your hands (fender off). You might have to stand on the board to keep it secure while doing this, as the wheel might require some force to shift side-to-side. If any part of it is mechanically loose, you'll find out this way.



  • The looseness is indeed sid to side. I can now do much much tighter circles as before. Not bad at all and funny at low speed. Only problem is at higher speed that it gets really nervous and you must ride really concentrated and put very light and precise pressurre on the board to carve around. Before the changing the board was way more forgiving and beginner-friendly.



  • @owpete OK, that is a problem - it's not supposed to do that. Even if you like how it feels now - it could get worse (or even break the axle completely). I wouldn't ride it anymore. Send it in for repair. Sorry bro!



  • So have you checked you pressure. As the tire wears the riding characteristics do change.



  • Yes, as I wrote above, I swiched from different pressures and compared the ridings.
    Is it possible to switch the board to a former/older firmware?



  • So, seems like nobody can really help me or has experienced the same issues as have.



  • I know! Someone installed a 5.5" Hoosier tire on your Onewheel when you weren't looking.
    Just kidding.
    Apologies to Hoosier lovers everywhere, and the original poster for this non-helpful suggestion.

    PS @desperado had a great recommendation.



  • @owpete
    Side to side looseness is NOT a software issue. There is something mechanically loose, like a bolt or other connection point. I would stop riding immediately until you find the source of the problem and fix it yourself or send it in. If you could post a video where you show the looseness it might help.



  • @owpete said in Suddenly very loose riding...?:

    Hi everybody,
    I just come back from checking the 4 sidebolts. They are as tight as you can tighten them. Impossible for me to loosen them. And what do you mean with the hidden bolts, I do not know which one you are refering to?

    @owpete watch the first couple minutes of Chris’s video for explanation of where the “hidden bolts” are.

    https://youtu.be/a7PcTkKheOA



  • Thanks,

    I already saw this video, bit was a bit afraid of removing and working and maybe destroying more than repairing. Except chris, has anybody tried this?



  • @owpete said in Suddenly very loose riding...?:

    Thanks,

    I already saw this video, bit was a bit afraid of removing and working and maybe destroying more than repairing. Except chris, has anybody tried this?

    Dozens upon dozens on Facebook. People take their boards completely apart to fly or clean or switch over to Beast Rails.



  • Hello once again on this sibject. I have the impressio ,the board got looser and more wobbly again. I checked the 4 main nolts to fix the wheel and they are still nearly unmovable fix. Could anybody point me to a link where I can see the smaller bolts behind the big ones to tighten?



  • @owpete

    You mentioned already watching the video I linked to above... that shows where they are. Not hidden just not easily visible.

    You should be able to see the edges of the silver colored bolt heads through the two smaller holes in the rail.



  • Is it possible to see and fix these bolts without removing the four big ones which lets slip out the whole wheel? Cannot find them, seems very good hidden :-)
    I did Carbon wrap my board. Maybe that's the reason why I cannot find them?
    A Foto would be very helpful.
    Many thanks
    owppete


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