Any local laws against Onewheel?



  • I was curious to know if anyone has had any city/local rules or laws passed or discussions being had pertaining to Onewheel or E-skate boards?
    I ask because I had a 45 min conversation w/ my local park ranger last Saturday about the board itself, how it works, what it is capable of, cost and basically everything in between.
    He waved me down as I was entering a paved path, so I rode over and he said he had some questions about it, because he had seen me around the parks a handful of times. I answered them as enthusiastically and politely as possible. He seemed to be really open to the idea of the concept and how it is used not only for recreation, but also as a mode of transportation as well.
    I was informed that most of his colleagues, himself included, had no idea how they should embrace this wonderful new technology. I got the feeling that they don't want to ban or regulate, they just want to understand better so they can be accepted more, and formulate things to say to assure anyone who complains about them that they are not bad in anyway. Now mind you, no one in my area has one and I think the closest one in N.E. Ohio is 40 min away. Correct me if I'm wrong tho and let's meet up and float!!
    So with all that being said, my question to this wonderful Onewheel community is, does anyone have any info that I could pass along to him that would help our cause, i.e., rules in your town or city, or a link to a list of park rules that benefit us in some way. I have read a few things on the forums, and I have some info, but if I collect enough then he mentioned he would pass that along to other rangers in surrounding cities.
    Someone mentioned on here that this could be a Renaissance of sorts for onewheel and eskate but it could go the way of skateboards and bmx being heavily regulated if we aren't careful. I dont believe it will come to that point, but your guess is as good as mine. Anything will help, and I appreciate anyone who will share their thoughts, good or bad.



  • I live in North Dakota and there are probably five Onewheels in the whole state. Anyway, Bismarck has probably over 100 miles of bike paths and I've rode a lot of them without any negative feedback. Looking through legal pages, I really haven't seen any firm definition of a "Motorized vehicle" even though the walking paths here all have signs that state "No Motor Vehicles". I did find a video on Youtube from Dufisthenics titled: "I have to be honest about the One Wheel" that gives a good definition of an "Electric personal assistive mobility device" at the 15:29 mark. https://youtu.be/HvJobTE-IjI
    The guy in the video lives in Florida, but a lady approached me one day regarding my use of a Onewheel on a walking path and I gave her a brief definition of a motorized vehicle much like the one in the aforementioned Youtube video and she didn't have a rebuttal, she just asked that I look out for others. I said "OK" then flipped her off as I rode away. Just kidding, that's no way to be a nice Onewheeler. Hope that helps.



  • Here is an interesting document from my home state. The Onewheel doesn't fit any of the categories. It's too bad the Segway exemption was written so specifically.

    http://www.house.leg.state.mn.us/hrd/pubs/lowpower.pdf



  • Here where i live most places ban motorized vehicles (except wheel chairs).
    Everywhere i look malls, hotels, state parks and trails all restrict motorized vehicles. Heres the thing it is forbidden to ride there but it dont stop everyone. Cliche " if theyre doing it why can't we?"

    Enforcement is where youll be found with doubt. It is expensive to police the entire state. When you get caught use this cliche " i didn't know!".

    Most cops (private or public) are lazy and probably let you go. If you see them keep em in the corner of your eye and go the other way.

    I see the onewheel as an ATV and like a skateboard i respect the personal judgement against it on public ways. OW is a dangerous toy under the wrong feet.



  • I live across the stateline from NW Ohio, and got stopped a couple times at parks, but luckily it was much like your scenario, they've never seen one and were interested how it worked, etc. I think the biggest sticking point, which seemingly made them calm down initially, was that they're not gas operated, I think that's where a lot of lines are drawn with these types of things. But yeah, once I explained it, everyone was totally cool with it



  • @jonnyk I just tell them I have to stop and wind it up every 5-10 minutes until it clicks, no issues.

    Kidding. Yeah we've had very mixed responses around Boston. Being calm, respectful and polite go further than you think. All but one time we have been able to continue riding.

    In the city most laws are written targeting wheelchairs, skateboards, razor scooters, Segways or bikes. OW doesn't fall into any of the categories... yet.



  • @skyman88 I've never had any serious problems with it where I live, yet.

    One thing that stinks, is that FM refers to the OW on their website as "the best motorized skateboard" (when IMO it's not really a skateboard, since it doesn't have skate trucks/wheels). So trying to pull the "it's not a skateboard!" defense if you get busted in a no-skateboard area might pose a problem, since the company itself says it is. I wish FM would update that wording.

    Another is, I think "motor vehicle" is a legal term of art, so like that dude in FL says, in that state that's defined as "two or more wheels, can go > 20 MPH".

    But a lot of places forbid "motorized vehicles" - it's hard to argue that a OneWheel is not a vehicle, which is motorized.



  • @glyph

    True and if you search Google a description comes up with the >20mph clause and bunch of other requirements but that's relative to the EPA for emissions. Many folks incorrectly quote this... not sure what the true legal definition is.



  • Today on a public walk/bike path with 10MPH speed limit posted, someone said “no skateboards allowed, there’s a big sign.” I said “this is not a skateboard, it has a brake, like a bicycle”



  • Suddenly everywhere i ride somebody has a problem with the Onewheel (after months with no issue, on the same trails?)

    This time I was heading through the cemetery I always go through on my way to the river. Other groundskeepers have cheerfully waved but the chud working yesterday just pointed and shouted "NO! NO!"

    OK Fine, you chud, I'll ride somewhere else and guests of your cemetery will no longer be privileged to witness the magic of my carving. nyah!



  • @Glyph said in Any local laws against Onewheel?:

    One thing that stinks, is that FM refers to the OW on their website as "the best motorized skateboard" (when IMO it's not really a skateboard, since it doesn't have skate trucks/wheels). So trying to pull the "it's not a skateboard!" defense if you get busted in a no-skateboard area might pose a problem, since the company itself says it is. I wish FM would update that wording.

    Another is, I think "motor vehicle" is a legal term of art, so like that dude in FL says, in that state that's defined as "two or more wheels, can go > 20 MPH".

    But a lot of places forbid "motorized vehicles" - it's hard to argue that a OneWheel is not a vehicle, which is motorized.

    Respect is an unspoken act that can save me time and money. Nice people get accpted doing something illegal and on the flipside annoying people get scrutinized for existing.

    I wouldnt like to waste my time in court rooms trying to prove things. Id rather be somewhere wheeling around than twiddling me thumbs and trying to convince people of my rights.



  • @fruitygreen We all owe it to each to always be courteous and defer to pedestrians, etc. This has gone a long way but there's just no convincing some old ladies, they love to chew me out.



  • "Kill them with kindness"



  • In California, AB-604 seems to classify the Onewheel as an “electrically motorized board”, and has it's own set of rules. Segway is classified seperately as an “electric personal assistive mobility device”. There are also different specific rules for Electric Bikes, and clarification that an electrically motorized board is NOT an electric skateboard. There is still a lot of grey area in the bill, but the primary problem I found is CVC 21113, allowing any government agency or local authority to make their own rules overriding any state regulations. Unfortunately it's easier for those in power to just say no with a blanket ban discriminating on anything not human powered until technology becomes more formally adopted and accepted, or not :-( Rental E-scooter and bike/ e-bike regulations in urban areas could also impact future regulations for better or worse. I say claim ignorance and ride in bliss unless you see a specific sign posted



  • @readysetawesome said in Any local laws against Onewheel?:

    @fruitygreen We all owe it to each to always be courteous and defer to pedestrians, etc. This has gone a long way but there's just no convincing some old ladies, they love to chew me out.

    So true. Regulation tends to only follow issues—it is rare for any government (in the states) to take preemptive measures against something new.
    If we yield to pedestrians, don’t mess with traffic, don’t destroy public or private property, and be courteous to law enforcement—we should be OK as a community.

    Unfortunately, all you need is one jerk to screw the whole thing up for everyone. Remember, we all had to take our shoes off at airports because one idiot tried to blow his sneakers up on a plane. And we can’t fly with our XRs because hoverboard knock-offs cut corners with their battery cells.



  • @SirWheelGuy23 I honestly thought I was the only onewheel rider in N.E OH!

    I've been riding my OW on paved bike paths in Medina as well the roads in my neighborhood and nobody seems to have a problem with it. My main concern is whether or not we're able to ride on off-road trails or MTB trails.

    I called in to one of the offices for a MTB trail trying to explain what a onewheel was and I was constantly being cut off by the statement "we do not allow mopeds". It seems as if lack of understanding is our biggest issue



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  • @SirWheelGuy23 I an near 40 had my leg reattached a few times along with over 80 other breaks over time from enjoying life by doing challenging things.

    Now I got a OW+ XR for fun and to get around without using a cane or when I need or want to go longer distances.

    But I live in Las Vegas now and getting the local business to treat me with respect vs telling me "I'm not handicapped enough to use my own electric vehicle scooter" or "use our peace of shit one and look like an invilid or we won't let you in the store"

    But Store owner I have the law on my side and it says my OneWheel is a valid ADA scooter.

    They don't want to hear it they refuse to read a short paragraph that says Im right.

    https://www.ada.gov/opdmd.htm - For God sakes, it has a big picture for the Assholes that cant read.

    Now I'm getting a handicap ID even though I shouldn't have to by law.
    will Try again when I got the ID if that doesn't work I'm left with little recourse but to sue the shit out of some Casinos and grocery/hardware/walmart stores.

    Pissis me off us OneWheelers are not skateboarders, we can move in ways needed to get around small enclosed places. A skateboard can't do that unless you pick it up and turn it. Not to mention ours are quite. and I don't drive fast in stores I keep it down to 5mph or so.



  • It’s awesome to hear that people are using these as adaptive equipment!
    I am a COTA and work with lots of people with mobility issues. Can’t wait to see more of this!
    Such a cool and innovative piece of equipment