No gyro rider balanced

  • @bryphi77 Dude, for one, we don't know what a trigger-operated onewheel is like, because you just made it up. 2, a onewheel that is trigger operated as you describe, would presumably act like a powered-off onewheel when the trigger is at rest or 'zero'. otherwise you'd still have a self-balancing board. 3, videos of motorcycles doing wheelies are not really related to this, I'm sorry but motorcycle wheelie balance != onewheel balance. A motorcycle has a front wheel to land on when you let go of the throttle.

    Your idea in practice would be an unmitigated disaster - remote controlled throttle is far less precise, I know because I ride both an electric skateboard and onewheel and there is no eboard remote on the planet that is as confidence inspiring as the onewheel's throttle control via lean.

  • @readysetawesome
    "A motorcycle has a front wheel to land on when you let go of the throttle."
    Its not equal at all... the onewheel would be 10x easier.
    Also, It can be designed to have small rollers on front and back.... but it wouldn't even be needed any more than it is now.
    If you watch that vid I posted and still dont think this is possible I do have to question your intelligence.
    So what is your stance here... You are against this being prototyped to see if it works? LOL!

  • @bryphi77 think of the torque that bike has to correct falling forward or the brakes to keep from dipping all the way back. I’m sorry but I and all the other owners of OW’s know that these boards just don’t put out that kind of torque. It’s not all balance. The idea of trying to balance a motorcycle from a complete standstill would be about as easy as it is to balance a OW powered off. Adding a remote control to start it rolling in one direction is not going to make balancing on the board any easier and what happens if you actually do get up to speed and manage to balance this contraption and signal is lost to the device or it receives some sort of interference and tells the wheel to start turning the other way? We here call that a NOSEDIVE! I say no thanks but I would love to watch something like this on jackass. I would get hours of entertainment rewatching that.

  • @bryphi77 said in No gyro rider balanced:


    LOL, as much as I loved that video, it is completely unrelated to what I asked (again for science). At this point I actually doubt that you have ever ridden a Onewheel. If you think it is possible to balance on an Onewheel with no gyros while it is rolling, then I really want to see you doing it. readysetawesome made a good point about having the trigger at zero. At zero position, the motor would be off since the gyros are off. How about get a piece of plywood, slap a wheel barrel wheel in the center of it and ride that down a hill since you dont own a onewheel. I really want to see you doing this. I think it would be a fun video to watch. Plus your success would put us all in our place.

    I wish you owned a Onewheel or at least get a chance to ride one for a day. If you did, you would know that the Onewheel is one of the most intuitively controlled electric personal vehicles. Just "think" the direction you want to go and how fast and the board does it. Why? because unlike e-skates that use just the muscles in your trigger finger and the nerve impulses just in you hand to control those muscles, the Onewheel uses almost all the muscles in your body, your inner ear, your vision and almost your entire nervous system as the control input. No trigger finger can compare to that.

  • @bryphi77 said in No gyro rider balanced:

    I dont own one, but I have ridden them a few times... Its just a suggestion.

    Bry guy, do you think the majority of bicycle rider and motorcycle riders spend a lot of time on one wheel?

    I understand your concept but I just don't think it's feasible. See my previous reply. The OW is remote-less and that is a huge selling point... it becomes and extension of your thought at some point. It just goes where you want it to.

    Also, a lot of folks spend time in busy cities or on rough trails, you can feel when the board saves you, especially in Delirium. I understand if you want to try and experiment but don't think FM is going to change their business model or already niche fan base.

    I clicked on your profile and was reading your posts from 2016 when you saying the OW could be improved by decreasing traction and allowing the board to "power slide" more easily. Again, as someone who rides a OW, loves the OW as it is, and rides off road, this is another idea 180* different from what I think people would want.

    Borrow a board, buy a board or rent a board, go beat the hell out of it in its current form. Put on 200-300 miles and then come back because I think it'll completely change your perspective on what "improvements" are needed.

  • @bryphi77 said in No gyro rider balanced:

    @mr-vince Dude... You do realize that a turned off one wheel is nothing like a onewheel with a responsive 2 way trigger, right?

    Coming from a Future Motion representative, it was stated that the Onewheel CPU checks position 14,000 times per second to keep you balanced. ( And even at that processing speed people still manage to overtake the CPU and fall off the board.

    You telling me you can adjust your trigger finger 14,000 times per second to keep you from face planting?

  • @bryphi77 lol dude 10x easier to land on tiny rollers or casters than on a giant rubber motorcycle tire? ok, sure. Whatever you say. Lets both agree to question each other's intelligence and just leave it at that.

  • @skyman88 said in No gyro rider balanced:

    Borrow a board, buy a board or rent a board, go beat the hell out of it in its current form. Put on 200-300 miles and then come back because I think it'll completely change your perspective on what "improvements" are needed.

    THIS. DING DING DING DING. Nobody I know who seriously invests time in riding a onewheel believes it needs some list of necessary improvements.

  • @readysetawesome

    Other than concave front foodpad, water proofing, increased range and mixed requests of swappable batteries.

  • @mr-vince 100% true this needs more upvotes!

  • @mr-vince I figured I would give it a few days to let all the all the retards get their gibberish out.

    Balancing on a still onewheel is like balancing on a still bike.This would be much easier than doing it while on a bike as you are already evenly distributed over the huge wheel. The key to balancing is being able to accelerate. AS I SAID ALREADY!

    To be honest I think the people posting here are not so much worried about new improvements or a new product, seems like they worship the one they own like it is a god of some kind.

    I have ridden one of these for a about 15 hours. As some who rides motor bikes and can ride wheelies on a bike.The thing that I liked the least about Onewheel was having to rely on the gyro. To me this is a flaw in the ride... and you lose a lot of maneuverability because of it.

    Thats fine and all that none of you like the idea, but I do find it odd that you all seem morally opposed to it being tested, and prototyping it... it wold cost nothing and the time would be minimal. The worst that could happen is that they would have a new product to sell.