Plus/XR stop option in the OW app like the Pint?
SmokeyCat last edited by SmokeyCat
I would like to see the firmware upgraded in the OneWheel Plus and XR to have the option to stop like the Pint. I think it is capable of doing it!
Like a toggle in the settings on the OneWheel App.
What do you think?
@SmokeyCat , I'm pretty that sure that given no hardware restrictions, FM won't have a good reason not to enable that option for XR owners as well.
The XR is still the flagship model, and if the only thing needed is a firmware and in app option, I think they'll enhance functionality given enough time and bandwidth to do so.
Personally, I don't care for that option and don't need it. But can definitely see how some people may want it for their XR, specially when brand new to one wheels and going straight to XR for range.
I admit I don't know that much about the new Pint, however, I wonder if this is really a "feature" or a limitation that accounts for some of the decrease in price (along with lower top speed and shorter range). As I understand it, you just push down on the back of the board and it powers down, then you step off. Does that mean that you can't ride both directions, as you can on all the other models??? I definitely would not want to give that up. OR if you can still ride both directions, then the control module must be able to differentiate between a stop motion and a move in the opposite direction. Seems like an invitation to rider error to me.
Is the Emperor really wearing new clothes here!
As I understand it, you just push down on the back of the board and it powers down, then you step off. Does that mean that you can't ride both directions, as you can on all the other models???
I've asked this in another thread and it was pointed out that in the Pint video it says this is an optional setting (on by default, I think, in the Pint) that can be turned off. I ride only forward, sometimes adjusting back at low speed when waiting at a cross street, but overall, I'd like to try this option on my + and my XR as an alternative to trying to balance and lifting my heel, as after almost 2 years, it still feels awkward to me.
@wheelrich my understanding is that the Pint is perfectly capable of riding in both directions. The option is to disable riding switch and make a proper dismount easier for entry level riders.
The Pint is a product intended to expand the one wheel reach across different groups of folks, younger riders and less experienced folks is the target. Dismount has historically been a little bit of a complex topic right up front, so Future Motion solved that issue with a setting that can be toggled on the Pint.
You can of course disable the option on the Pint and ride regular and switch like you can on an XR or any other model OW.
If it can be turned off, that is a good thing. It will be interesting to see how many eventually find it too restrictive and do turn it off. As for me, I will continue to perfect my stop and dismount. It gets better with each ride, and challenges me to better balance at low speeds or no speeds.
@wheelrich , I've watched enough of the launch videos to say confidently, it's a toggle setting. You can enable and disable it on the Pint.
I didn't even go any further than mount/dismount practice for the first day. Literally got on the board, balanced, got off. Probably 40-50 times. It's burned into my brain now and I don't even think about it, it just happens automagically :)
Keep on it, you'll get there for sure.
@SirCarvesAlot I still have the Vega on my XR and dismount is, as you say, almost a no brainer. However, with the slightly rounded Hoosier on my +, balancing while stopped takes more effort, so the dismount isn't quite as intuitive. Still, the carving is so much better that I can't wait to put a treaded tire on my XR once I get the bluetooth connection issue fixed by FM.
@OneDan , that's a great point. I just received my Burris tire and will likely install it in the next couple of weeks.
I do wonder how much more effort it is to balance the board at slow speeds. This particular tire is more rounded and treaded, but says the center is flat to aid with this problem some folks had with the Hoosier.
Let's see. Thanks for the heads up man.
@SirCarvesAlot I have the Burris also, and have been stalling putting it on until I feel solid in my turns and stopping with the Vega. Your idea of 40-50 practice dismounts sounds good. Up til now I only dismount maybe 3 or 4 times per ride. Maybe I will try just dismount practice for a whole session. I'm not bad, but I can't say I don't think about it when I do it.
@wheelrich , practice makes perfect. Might as well cram a hundred practice runs of a proper dismount in one session and make it a flow motion vs something you think about.
The Burris is flatter than the Hoosier but more rounded than the Vega. So you get pretty good low speed and stopped stability while still having rounded corners for carving on a dime.
@skyman88 Exactly what I was hoping for and why I went with the Burris. nice to hear confirmation. Thanks!
@skyman88 @SirCarvesAlot I have the FlightFins Hoosier tire, which is the 6.0 size made for the OW. It does have a good sized portion of "flatness". Though I've never seen the Burris, the reports of the Hoosiers being too "round", I think, came from people fitting the 5.5 and 6.5 tires to the OW. To me, it's just a bit harder to balance with the 6.0, not as difficult as was reported initially with the odd sized Hoosier tires. If the Burris isn't a bit more difficult to balance side to side, then I'd question how much better it is for carving.
Either way, most people report an improved ride with either choice. One of the biggest improvements for me is the treads. I am way more confident in situations where the Vega would simply slip out from under me, such as wet leaves, mud, and patches of loose sand/dirt on the pavement.
Now that the weather is warming up there is even more fun riding to be had!
Anybody have experience with the treaded tires riding on the beach?
Our local group has all one of every tire in it. And of my good friends switched from the Hoosier to the Burris for the flatter middle section. Still a huge carving improvement over the Vega, just allows you a little easier time when dismounting and balancing when stationary. Kind of a best of both worlds.
Always good to try things and see what works best for your riding style.... I'm still on a factory Vega but Burris would be my first choice for the replacement.
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@wheelrich yes, better traction.
@skyman88 Once I finally got my XR in for the bluetooth fix, I ordered a Burris and installed it now that it's back from FM. You were "spot on" in that it is a bit flatter in the middle than the Hoosier that I have on my +. The Burris does still carve way better than the Vega, but not quite as good as the Hoosier, and both have the secure treaded grip I like. For $30 cheaper, the slight loss of carve ability, and better balance at stand still makes the Burris a great choice!
FYI, the actual tire removal/installation part took 2 hours the first time I did it and about 20 minutes this time. All due to paying attention to the slot in the wheel, as shown in some of the videos. Anyone changing their own tire should definitely watch those. I wouldn't say it was easy, but I'm no longer afraid to change my own tires!
@OneDan Awesome to hear you like the Burris so much. That notch on the rim is the key for not needing any tools to swap tires.
I was visiting the Austin crew a few weeks ago and did some trail riding on borrowed boards... both had Cobra tails, Flight Fins and one had Hoosier treaded and the other Hoosier slick. What a difference a tire makes. The slick was like a ball on trails was awesome and so nimble. I don't think I'd love it as my only tire choice as it take more effort to ride but it was a blast to borrow.
I stand by my former comment that everyone should try some other setups and see if there is something out there they prefer... before buying it and committing.