Riding legally/dealing with rules on public land

  • So I’ve been riding for about a year and a half and somehow am just running into issues with Law enforcement, Park Rangers, etc. Today while riding at one of my favorite county parks I was informed of a no motorized vehicle rule. I spoke to the rangers and pleaded my case, they referred me to their boss and I spoke with him for about 30 min. Everyone has been pleasant but it’s not looking like there will ever be an exception made for Onewheels unless I step up my game. Thing is I can’t really see why a Onewheel should fall under a same rule that protects trails from ATVs. Anyone have any experience dealing with public officials, laws, policies, etc and any successes getting exceptions for Onewheels?

    These trails I’m trying to ride are approved for bikes. The county does not make an exception for ebikes but it is practically impossible to enforce.

    I would appreciate any advice as to how to proceed and defend my case for a Onewheel exception. Especially since I realize it’s just a matter of time before I run into similar issues at other parks.

  • While I dont have any advice for you, just a thought in my head... I am most certainly comfortable enough to consider riding my Pint with a set of golf clubs for a round of 18 holes, and while I haven't tried to do so yet, I just have this feeling that it wont be very well accepted by the course authorities (Marshall, management, other golfers, etc.). Maybe it will be fine, but I think in that case or in your case, the biggest issue is people simply aren't familiar with these things and don't know how to categorize them, or if they will somehow destroy nature, cause damage, etc. In the case of a golf course, this literally is a golf cart wheel, and one is far less intrusive than a cart that has 4, and in the case of state parks, this is just a little wider than the track left by a mountain bike or someone's shoe. That said, the unfamiliarity causing the policing that you are experiencing doesn't really surprise me. I hope you can get past that with them so you can enjoy the environment on your OW.

  • This is honestly the same issue that drones have went through the last several years. People don’t like change, and they don’t like stuff they’re not familiar with. I think the FAA and the general public has let off the drone saga in the last year or so.

    As to the OP, I have the same exact dilemma and that’s the only reason I haven’t been hitting up the county trails and parks, to avoid the conflict, because the signs do say no motorized vehicles...... even though it’s a car and a motorcycle in the picture. Ebikes will be nearly impossible to enforce because most wouldn’t even know the difference. I feel like e-products should be an exception due to the fact that they don’t create much noise, pollution, and promote a more overall healthy transportation model.

    Where are you located?

  • @Chuckb different situation but I had to deal with some red tape to be able to commute on public transpo with my pint.

    The system requires a permit for all personal mobility devices. When I looked online to see what qualified as such, all the literature I found specified 2 wheels; I assumed I was in the clear but decided to give them a cal to be 100% positive. Turns out when I spoke to an actual person, it was the Lithium based battery that was the real factor, and yes, they made me get the permit.

    So I’m wondering if the battery could be the factor for you as well? What kind of battery do E-Bikes use? I have no idea, but the person I spoke to wanted to know all the specs of my battery.

  • @a_onekatie that’s interesting considering unless you’re in a temperature change or decompression environment, lithium should not be an issue

  • Personally, I ride wherever I want to. The worst that ever happens is that an officialdom person will tell you not to. While I was attending the Reno Air Races in September I rode around in a half dozen casino's, always early morning when they weren't busy. Security gave me a hard time (even with a big handicap sticker on my fender) in all but one - the Silver Legacy. I know where I'M staying next year.

  • @speedracer as someone who lives in Reno, this is very interesting to hear. i don't go to the casinos much, but their reaction/response is interesting. the Legacy has the same owners as the Eldorado and Circus Circus, so i'm surprised if there was any difference in policy in those.