thanks for the info guys. OWpete, that explains how everyone gets their batteries so low. When my OW dies, I have never turned it back on and kept riding. This explains why I have seen the Volts around 2.8 or less. Tartopom That was also my concern, is running the batteries down to close to the LVC and perhaps damaging the cells. I will just keep riding it until it hits 3.1 V per cell for LVC, and then throw it back on the charger. Cheers guys!