Best posts made by Glyph

@cascadewheeler I spoke to a girl (forgot to get her name) on the Support line yesterday, and she stated that A). + will not be upgradeable to XR's, the XR battery size is several mm thicker and will not fit in the + frame (I had hoped that those black plates on the bottom of the XR, meant that XR frame was the same size as the +, and those were just the new battery/power covers, but according to her they are just rail protection), and B.) that there were no plans that she was aware of to help out anyone who got the + recently but would have preferred to get the XR (I got my + August 9 2017, so exactly 5 months too soon - I would have paid the extra for more range.)

It'd be nice if FM offered prior OW customers a discount on newer models to encourage upgrades and smooth these kinds of ruffled feathers. Even something like $50 or $75 or $100 off, even if mostly symbolic, would feel like at least a customer loyalty acknowledgement.

@mrclowny - I am having some of the same reservations. Another solution might be if the Fins had some sort of bracket that attached them to the same screws that hold the fender to the frame (making the Fins independent of the fender entirely), it A. might be less likely to damage the fender, and B. would not even require the use of a fender at all.

The other thing is, such a bracket could maybe make the Fins somewhat adjustable - once I attach these Fins to the fender, I better never change my shoe style to ones with thicker or thinner soles/insoles, or the fit may be off. I could drill more holes to reattach/adjust them, but at some point you start to worry about making the FM fender more breakable than people say it already is.

I dunno. I backed these and will probably attach them when I get them, but I'm having a little bit of buyer's remorse now. Those zip ties make it seem like an idea that's ALMOST ready for prime-time, but not quite.

A closeup of the shoulder pad itself - might be able to make something better looking if you can sew, or want to color the armor piece black:

@michaelw Preordered! Glad you guys took the zip-tie thing into consideration, that was probably a last minute pivot from you all but it def. looks a lot cleaner.

@hoovdini - Jesus Christ. They did delete mine. Despite the fact that not one post in it contains any links to any commercial product, it's all discussion about forum policy, and the OW itself.

Smooth move, Future Motion.

@rat8cheese Be very, very cautious about "leaning" to the front of the board, as depending on various factors (your weight, the terrain, your speed) you are inherently tempting fate into the dreaded nosedive. This is what the riding tips are trying to get across when they say "don't lean to change speed, use leg pressure instead while keeping yr body in place". Keeping your weight centered directly over the wheel at all times is working with the board's design to try to KEEP you there (that is, upright and level) at all times.

When you put too much weight on either side (with the front being more dangerous than the back), you are now making the board work against you to stay level. If you push it outside its capacities to both propel you and keep you upright, down goes the nose, the board stops IMMEDIATELY, you run it out (if lucky/reasonably-prepared) or get thrown to ground (if unlucky/unprepared).

I keep my knees slightly bent - I see videos of people with their knees VERY bent, but I only do this if I'm going under a low-hanging branch or something. But I also tend to ride mostly on pavement, it's possible for off-roaders their knees need to be more bent.

@reddog I guess I just see a lot of people pooh-poohing them and saying "just ride correctly and you will never nosedive". That's not realistic. That's like saying "just drive your car correctly and you will never crash", as an argument against seatbelts or airbags or something (or, I guess in our case, arguing against helmets).

It's a non-response to Fangs to say "just be careful and ride correctly" - of course we should be careful and ride correctly. Fangs are for those times when you screw up, and sooner or later, you will (hell, as good a product as I think the OW is, it's not realistic to think the board will never ever have a software or hardware failure causing a nosedive).

@michaelw I'm only a few years younger than you and I backed the Indiegogo not because I want these for tricks, but just to get up and down curbs. Looking forward to giving them a try and relieved to see that they don't seem to unduly catch your feet when you bail. Any idea when we might get them? I was in Group 2.

@mrclowny Agreed, I don't mean to be negative - the overall idea remains super-cool, which is why so many of us got excited about it. I just wonder if there's maybe a more elegant solution? Like maybe Flight Fins just needs to produce their own rock-solid fender, with the Fin system integrated to it, and you buy the whole thing. Or, like I said, maybe some kind of bracket that the Fin attaches directly to rather than to the fender (but the bracket could attach underneath the fender to the same frame screws.). The bracket would have to be strong though, aluminum or steel or something.

I got mine in the mail today, not sure when I will get a chance to attach.

OK, I'm going to try a couple pics to show what I've got. Same materials as listed above, except that due to the size of the shoulder armor piece, I decided against epoxy glue, and just used strips of industrial velcro, which stick wonderfully to the neoprene. I really think the shoulder armor piece would stay in place just with the standard two velcro tabs on the pocket, but I didn't want to take any chances on it having shifted out of place unnoticed, just when you needed it most.

It's very comfortable, neoprene should breathe well enough for heat purposes, and I think it's low-profile enough to wear under the shirt - I just put it over, so y'all didn't have to see my manly chest hair.

Very frustrating. I have purchased multiple user-created OW accessories - including float plates, a handle, a stand, Flight Fins, and Fangs - and I found out about ALL those products here.

Not sure why all of a sudden they are cracking down, and SELECTIVELY at that.

@rrg123 it's not JUST range - the XR also squeezes in 10% more torque. That's valuable for getting over/up/through obstacles, and in some cases may give you enough oomph to avoid a nosedive when you would have had one (though it may also lead you to push the limits of the board, and nosedive).

@mtruby82 http://community.onewheel.com/assets/uploads/files/1515788282112-3f974360-a9e6-406f-a63e-14174d5bd315-image.png

Taken from Julian's (I believe he may be a FM employee) post in this thread:

http://community.onewheel.com/topic/7525/introducing-onewheel-xr/69

@readysetawesome - I (and others) have speculated about whether the increased torque reduces nosedive probability under some conditions. Jury's definitely out: I think it could potentially help, others think it will make no difference at all, or perhaps even allow people to nosedive faster/sooner than they otherwise would.

I'll be watching the reports of people going from + to XR closely to see. I really hope the increased torque helps. If nothing else, like you say, if Delerium is slightly better on nosedives and range is no longer an issue on the XR, then leaving it on Delerium all the time becomes a no-brainer.