wait, really? there is no way i would inflate my tire to 20% of my weight
@a_onekatie meant 10%, that's the advice I had given her and that many follow . . . probably just a typo ;)
@MEEfO Several things affect pushback, but probably the one that does the most is rider weight. Heavier riders will tax the motor sooner, so it will pushback sooner. Many who can go faster are on the lighter side. If you don't think that's it, perhaps there is an issue with your board.
@fotoflux1 Oh boy, this is the XR issue all over again with FM asking to try the basic stuff we all try when we have connection issues. @KWasch mentioned above he's tried multiple phones and, if it was the phone, we'd have connection issues to all kinds of bluetooth devices, not just the OW Pint. Just as with the XR, everyone has to keep pounding them with complaints until they finally allow someone to send it in for a REAL diagnosis. It took months for them to finally admit and diagnose this for the XR.
Fingers crossed . . .
I’ve tried mine with multiple phones trying to rule things out. Bottom line is my Pint has horrible Bluetooth range. There’s no reason why I shouldn’t be able to glance at my watch to see speed, mileage, or battery life. The only way I’ve gotten it to stay consistently connected is taping my phone to my fender. Not really a solution in my book. Still waiting to hear back from FM...
@Franko While it's good to hear that you may not have this issue, besides it being an advertised feature of the boards, there are several other reasons I wouldn't put up with this issue on my XR (which I did end up getting fixed by FM).
One is that you can use a watch connected to the app on your phone to check battery level, distance traveled, and speed as you ride. If the phone won't connect, the watch connected to the phone gets no data either.
Even without the watch, the app can notify you when you hit 50% battery, in case you are riding away from home and want to know when to turn around.
In the early days of riding, I also used the top speed alarm to let me know if I was going way too fast which, again, will only work if the bluetooth connection to the board is intact.
On a side note, I (and others) have asked long ago for a feature in the app to allow the setting of a speed limit alarm, but @Future-Motion isn't very (or at all) responsive to such requests.
@svennyd There were some reports of situations like this with the older models where even honoring push back didn't slow the board down. I would report this to @Future-Motion ASAP, you may need a new controller board or sensors.
I ride treaded tires on both my + and my XR and saw no loss of range at all. I do have WAY more confidence on dirt, wet leaves, and mud, which is why I like the treaded tires. Might be my imagination, but carving on pavement seems more confident as well. Really cool to see this option pop up for the Pint!
@BrettJB and others, this needs to be reported to @Future-Motion by everyone that has the issue, that's the only way they will even acknowledge, then hopefully fix it. The board holds the mileage, so don't worry about that. Even if you connect someone else's phone to the board, you will see the actual mileage. What is more concerning about this, and I'm speaking from experience with the XR bluetooth issue, is that you may miss two important warnings: top speed exceeded and 50% battery remaining.
So come on Pint riders, report this issue so it can be diagnosed and fixed while you still are under warranty! :)
Hope someone gets to 16mph though (or already has) since they advert that as top speed.
Top speed, like pushback, depends on things like rider weight, incline, head wind speed, etc. When I first started riding a couple of years back, I saw a video on youtube with a kid that weighed like 80 lbs on a OW+ doing 27 or 28 mph!!! Looked pretty scary as the board was wobbling and he had NO protection on.
@rboult Just turned 61, was 59 when I got my first +, then got an XR last fall. I had a couple of nasty nosedives when starting, then decided to slow down a bit. I ride exclusively in Delirium, but since I was thrown off at 21 mph 600 miles into my OW career, I've kept my speed at or below 15 mph, added fangs to both boards, and haven't had an issue since. I'm approaching 3000 miles combined on my + and XR.
Enjoy the float!
@a_onekatie Pretty sure they were on Maui, but yeah, that looked awesome. His XR looked like a darn workhorse, all covered in grass and mud with him riding barefoot!
@McFloaty The bluetooth needs to stay connected. It wouldn't be right if it cuts out, then warns you that you've gone past the 50% battery sometime later when it cuts back in! It also tracks your location if you're recording a ride, so it definitely should be connected all the time. They have fixed this on the XR by replacing the controller with a new firmware version. Apparently, that can't be flashed and requires an actual replacement. We have no idea if the Pint has the same issue as the XR until someone (or everyone) with bluetooth connection issues on their Pints reports this to @Future-Motion for diagnosis.
Do you guys wear wrist guards?
Agree with @Kielanders, always! I ride on pavement exclusively. The first 1000 miles or so I wore helmet, knee and elbow pads, and wrist guards. Now that I'm more comfortable and no longer pushing anything more than 15 mph on my + or XR, I only wear the helmet and wrist guards, but I wear them all the time. When I had a nose dive at 600 miles going 21 mph, I actually broke the left (leading) wrist guard. That would have been my wrist breaking! Ever since, I've never ridden without them.
@b0ardski I'm thinking the average Pint rider doesn't need more concave footpads since the wheel is quite a bit rounder than the prior versions. Also, with the smaller Pint foot pads, anyone with a shoe size larger than a 6 or 7 might have those bones hitting them more towards the middle of their foot, which may negatively affect comfort (you can let us know as you ride with them more). I'm only an 8.5 shoe and my toes and heel stick out a little, even on my XR. Really curious to see a pic of someone with a size 10/11 or larger on a Pint!
I have a concave back pad that does help with foot fatigue and makes for slightly quicker turns on my XR. That said, if you're riding twisty type trails on your Pint, I'm sure this might help with quicker turns to avoid rocks and roots!
@tzracer22 / @ShreddieMcskate FWIW, I used to ride with my regular Nike Air Max shoes and I would get that warning once or twice on my daily 12 mile rides on my XR. Like you, I would just ignore it because it wasn't happening too often and I know my foot never left the pad for any significant amount of time. I have since switched to some Van's mid top shoes and I haven't seen the message since . . . it's been over a month.
If you are getting the message regularly, like more than once or twice a ride, I would contact FM to see if they will replace your front pad under warranty. I do know on the V1/+/XR, FM has replaced pads for folks with issues.
I know others have stated the apple watch didn’t connect so well on the other models but I am wondering if anyone has tried one with a Pint specifically?
The watch doesn't connect to the board, it connects to your phone that is connected to the board. It's the same with Android. What I did before sending my XR in for the replacement hardware was that I would put my phone in the lower pocket of my cargo shorts where it was about 2 feet from the board. I would then run the OW app on my Wear OS watch, connected to the phone, and that would work 90% of the time.
This is not good if the Pint has a similar issue to what the XR had when it came out and it took them a LONG time to admit it was an issue and then fix it. I waited until that happened and was able to get mine fixed under warranty, including shipping both ways.
I think everyone with a Pint that doesn't hold the bluetooth connection needs to notify @Future-Motion right away. This is a major feature of the board and no one should have to deal with a broken feature. Also, after 1 year is up, this won't be covered by the warranty.
Edit: As @KWasch stated, FM needs to be made aware of this and fix it ASAP.
@J0nKn1ght I've got almost 3000 miles on my + and my XR combined and with a top speed of 19 mph, my max is 15 mph. I even have a watch running the OW app connected to my phone to make sure I don't go over that. Extrapolating that to the 16 mph max speed on the Pint, I would say to not go over maybe 12/13 mph max. Of course, this all depends on rider weight, incline, wind, etc.
Pushback is telling you that the motor is close to not being able to keep the wheel under you. When that happens, you'll know it (as you do now). How do I know that? Because my nosedive at 600 miles into my OW career happened at 21 mph. Let's just say, it was not pretty. LOL
I, myself, have only felt low battery pushback. But if you're cruising at 19 mph and it tries to pushback (at least on the + and XR versions), it's really quite subtle.
Anyway, besides having the watch to keep check on my speed, somehow my body won't even let me go past 14/15 mph. I can just feel when I'm crossing that line.
Since that fall at 600 miles, I've had 2 close calls, both at low speeds trying to accelerate too quickly, but my fangs saved me.
Heal up and hop back on, but definitely take it easy and try for no pushback.
Somebody around here mentioned to me early on, that for optimal stability you want to be at 10% of your body weight.
That was me, you're welcome! I used to ride at 20 psi, but since I've dropped to 16/17, I have so much more control and stability.