@skyman88

Both sides look pretty close to the center to me. As most of my weight is on my toe and heel, maybe removing the four sensor strips (two on either side) would help?

I have this problem even when standing perfectly still, so I assume the sensor is ok

@tomfoolery

"...The sensors are very close to the center of the pad so foot placement plays a big factor in disengaging the motor..."

Thank you, this explains a lot.

85 miles now and I'm still jumping off about a quarter of the time. Sometimes when lifting my heel, I wondered if the front part of my foot was on the left sensor. When I can get it to shutdown, it feels like I'm on my 'tippy-toes' like some kind of ballerina. I've tried rotating on my heel, but it just won't rotate, I assume due to the sole material.

This is my biggest complaint about my XR, other than that - it's amazing...

@OneDan

85 miles and stopping my XR is still an awkward and an issue for me (and it only seems be a problem when I'm surrounded my people) ;)
So I would love a lean back switch, but only if it was an option. I love the ability to ride backwards to much to give up that option...

It's all over my head, but it sure sounds like a great improvement. Beyond the time and money spent on development, do you have any idea of what the unit cost might be?

@MaximusDebilus

New rider here, 39 miles and loving it.

The first (and only) time I tried to run out my battery, it quit at 12%. It'd be nice to have at least a little more accuracy. If this is as accurate as it gets, I'd like the ability to set my turnaround warning to 60% or so, to be sure I'll have enough power to get home.

@Glyph said in XR - thrown from board after pushback:

@DoubleDown said in XR - thrown from board after pushback:

I slid further face down on the asphalt than the board ghost rode after me.

That's because the instant your foot came off the front pad, the OW DID lock up (brake the wheel), because the board stops when you come off it. That's what it does to prevent it from rolling away downhill. That's its version of a "deadman switch".

I'm sorry, I know what you think you felt, but there's a YouTube video out there where a guy does some quick napkin calcs on how quickly the nose can drop down from level to pavement, and it is tiny - TINY - fractions of a second. A nosedive happens FAST. Faster than a human can easily perceive it if you're the one doing it, especially if afterwards you are hurtin' for certain.

You're going through exactly what I went through (boy oh boy do I identify with the "lulled into a false sense of being within known performance" bit.) I share your hope that FM will continue to improve these machines, because they are amazing. They feel like magic and that fools us into thinking they are. But they are still just complicated levers, subject to physics.

Think of two people arm-wrestling (you're one person, the board is the other) - you might strain against one another for seconds, even minutes, appearing to be evenly matched, but when the breaking point comes, when one side can't hold the other's "push" and leverage back any more, the end happens quickly and it's over.

You outweigh the board, by a lot. You "beat" it, by "attacking" it quickly and overwhelming its reserves of strength.

Unfortunately, the nature of THIS contest means that the pavement will always win in the end. Overacceleration can be thought of as fighting the board. Work with the board instead. It WANTS to keep you upright.

Definitely get the Fangs (I did). Like you, I suspect they would have bought me a little time to AT LEAST bail better, if not recover entirely. (My friend who has them on his board has actually ridden out three nosedives on them, staying onboard and bringing the nose back up to continue riding).

Again, I know this isn't what you want to hear, because it's not what I wanted to hear. But since I've learned to watch my acceleration (and this is harder than it seems to always remember - sometimes when you look down an intersection and see a car coming, the urge to scoot across quickly to beat it is very, very tempting. Don't give in to that temptation, unless you want to be lying in the street in front of that car), it - knock wood - has never happened again.

I've read so many post here and on other forums from riders asking for a software or another fix to reduce nosedives. I have almost no experience with only 19 total miles, but as a retired mechanical designer, I don't understand why they haven't added 'fang like' wheels built into the board themselves. I read someone claim they can't do it because it's an admission they made a mistake and it'll open them up to lawsuits.

I don't understand why this would be different than making any other product safer. I can't imagine car companies were sued for adding seatbelts or other Improvements. What am I missing?

@tomfoolery Thanks for the replies. I guess the bottom line is that the Fangs give you at least a chance to run it out (as long as the Fang wheel aren't made of clay)...

@sidjtd Hello all, first post.

I ordered a XR after riding one for 3 hours. Before that it was 49 years since I was on one, back in the days when we only had clay wheels. I'm 64, am I the oldest here? :)

It arrived a couple of days ago but I won't be taking it out until my ribs heal (unrelated to OW). I've just been practicing balancing in one place in our living room. Like most new owners, I've read many posts on various sites about nosedives, so I also ordered a set of Fang that haven't arrived.

My first question is why the fangs only slow down the abrupt stop, instead of allowing the board to continue rolling. It the wheels are free rolling, why don't they keep you going along on the 3 wheels? If it unexpectedly turns off and the nose dives, wouldn't the tie rotate freely and start coasting? Why the sudden stop?