@ninozowi said in High Speed Nose Dive in Delirium (WW+):
@lirou I disagree. It roughly outlines what pushback is, yes. But it most certainly does not say it will result in a nosedive. Isn't this a conspicuous absence? As I've previously pointed it, I'm sure they don't mention that as it would show they're aware of it.
I can recall from experience that there was no pushback at the moment of nosediving. It just kind of gave out.
I admitted more than one time that I pushed through the pushback to go faster, yes. I accept that it was my fault for the accident. And I am aware of the generic warning in the manual, too. But, I keep coming back to the fact that pushback isn't presented as a warning, and certainly not as a precurser to a nosedive. It is presented as description without stating a nosedive is not just possible, but inevitable, eventually.
Part of my confusion here, too, is that pushback occurs on all the other settings, but not at all as a warning. In Sequoia, for example, which I spent a few days in when I first got the board, you get pushback, but it is not in any way a warning that you're reaching the limits of the board. And I was wholly unable to push through Sequoia very far. So, this pushback as warning is a little ambiguous.
@ninozowi The issue with your comments above, pushback is the safety mechanism built into the board by FM to let you know you are at the limit of the board's ability to fully balance you. For arguments sake, let's say at 15 mph 70% of the power is going acceleration and 30% is balancing you. Then's when pushback occurs. If you go to 20 mph you are using 100% of the available power to keep accelerating at that speed and 0% is left to balance you, aka prevent nose dives. *Note: speed & percentages are made up for argument sake.
In Sequoia, where pushback is set to occur at a lower speed like 8mph, you have 40% of the power going into acceleration and 60% left for balance and pushback, that's why it can come on so strong.
Since the board has a finite amount of power (battery and motor) when you are at 20 mph you are past the safety warning and there is no "reserve" of extra power to try and save you again. And if there was, you know people would then push to 25 mph through that as well and then post on here they don't know why the board nosedived on them...
I had 3 months to wait for my board to arrive this spring/summer, so during that time I read a ton on here. There are a bunch of beginner FAQ's and "read before riding" posts as well as a great Wiki page now with a "riding technique" page that everyone should be required read.
For me its a risk versus reward thing... I have a blast on the board in the 10-14 mph range and don't find those last few mph worth the risk... Plenty of others do and if you have good balance & reactions can ride there all the time. @slydogstroh rides consistently between 20-23 mph but has 6000 miles or something insane on one of these.
For all out speed, a Boosted Board or Evolve GTX may be a better option but you'd worry a lot more about sticks, rocks, cracks, grass, etc... than you do on the OW. OW has maneuverability, multi-terrain capability and that float feeling you get without a controller in your hand... you kind of become one with the board after a while. It just does what you're thinking.